Hardinvestor - GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves

skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

Gata lance une demande d'information,au sens juridique du terme,sur les réserves d'or des usa ..
-combien en reste t'il et à qui appartient'il?
-quid des préts ou autre leasing ( et si oui, à qui ? institutions financiéres agissant sur le marché de l'or ou gouvernements étrangers ?)
-et enfin,déterminer si les régles et usages concernant l'or des US ont pour but d'influencer le cours de l'or

pour ce faire , il fait appel à un consultant, spécialisé en droit constitutionnel américain, dont la mission sera de sélectionner un cabinet d'avocats à washington afin de préparer une demande d'information dans le cadre du federal freedom of information act

ça c'est une grande 1ére !
Go Gold, Go Gata !

http://www.gata.org/node/5167
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

le plan de campagne du Gata sur ce sujet est fin prêt ! clap clap

et la période qui s'ouvre, on ne peut plus favorable, et pour 2 raisons
- nouvelles régles de transparence édictées par le FMI ( voir plus bas )
- changement tout récent et signalé ici, dans le mode de comptabilisation du gold US

En effet,à l'occasion de la parution des nvelles régles de tranparence du FMI et donc de la comptabilisation du gold par les BC..on a la confirmation que les préts ( loans, avances et autres swaps ) devront être mentionnés ... le tout pour 2008 .. ce qui ne manquera pas de faire envoler les cours de l'once .

on verra donc dés 2008 que l'ensemble des BC occidentales n'a que la moitié de l'or qu'elle prétendait avoir .. le reste ayant été mis à la disposition des B banks, pour impacter négativement, le cour de l'or.

Gata va donc lancer un freedom information act à la Fed et au Tresor US, leur demandant le statut précis des réserves de gold US..avec tout l'historique et plein d'autres Q qui devraient confirmer et valider les travaux et recherches effectuées depuis 1999.

s'il refusent de répondre, le Gata poursuivra avec plus d'une centaine de Q préparées minutieusement et depuis 4 mois ...

restons à l'écoute, ça promet d'être une très belle bataille !

source Midas

Now for the bonanza news for our camp…
Late yesterday and today I learned the following from Neal Ryan who presented remarkably astute commentary when he worked with Blanchard & Co. He has learned that the:
"IMF adoption on new transparency rules governing all fiscal assets (including gold reserves) has been fully and formally adopted, while just being made available on their website.

Here is the link:

http://www.imf.org/external/np/pp/2007/eng/101907m.pdf
There is nary a mention of gold until you reach page 74 and 75 in the document, but it's there without much description other than to say "additional breakdowns of assets should be provided...including loans and advances..."reporting loans and swaps of gold reserves.

The new changes are set to go starting in 2008."
Fabulous Neal and thanks … yeah baby, for whatever reason the bums are in big trouble and GATA is preparing an all out attack to bury them…
*Based on the Treasury’s own web site, we know some percentage of US gold reserves has been mobilized to some degree via some kind of gold loan/swap operations. THIS despite denials of such activity to the GATA camp for the last 9 years.
*If a majority of the IMF central banks comply with this requirement, the investment world will realize the central banks have HALF the gold they SAID they had. The jig will be up and there will be a rush for gold like never seen in history.
*GATA will soon launch a well publicized Freedom of Information Act request to the Fed and Treasury to account for the exact status of US gold reserves. All we will be asking for as US citizens is the truth. God forbid us peons should request such a thing as far as our US government is concerned.
*When they refuse to tell the American people the truth and not respond to our request, we will sue their butts. In addition to Edwin Vierra, GATA has retained the appropriate law firm to take the Fed and Treasury to court to compel them to answer the 100 QUESTIONS we have prepared. GATA has been diligently working on this for 4 months. We are ready to launch our latest ENVELOPING HORN (see SHAKA) battle tactic.
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

New IMF transparency rules likely prompted change in U.S. gold report, ici

et comme indiqué en tête de file :

skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

1ere manche:

GATA Begins Campaign to Wrest Gold Documents from Fed, Treasury
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

1ere manche : une page de pub ds le wall street journal, une gde 1ere... pour le Gata, qui a tjs été censuré par les médias ..... histoire d'attirer l'attention du gd public, sur la question ... en préambule au lancement de la phase "freedom of information act"

Wall Street Journal agrees to print full-page ad from GATA

Submitted by cpowell on Fri, 2008-01-18 21:46. Section: Daily Dispatches
1:45p PT Friday, January 18, 2008
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
This month GATA will place a full-page advertisement in The Wall Street Journal calling attention to the international central bank scheme to suppress the price of gold and to GATA's conference in Washington in April.
The ad was devised with great care by GATA's Board of Directors over the last several weeks and The Wall Street Journal today confirmed to GATA that it will publish the ad as submitted. In the belief that this ad can strike a profound blow against the rigging of the gold market and all related markets, GATA has cobbled together assets valued at the more than quarter-million dollars to be charged by the newspaper for printing the ad and expects to convert them to U.S. dollars and make payment to the newspaper next week.
You can see the advertisement here:
http://www.gata.org/files/GATA-AD-01-14-2008.pdf
Please distribute the ad to anyone who might be interested in it.
GATA is not asking for contributions to underwrite the ad particularly. But if you approve of GATA's work generally (and would like to help us get our children back), you can learn how to support GATA financially here:
http://www.gata.org/node/16
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

parution au W street journal, prévue pour .. demain, jeudi !

danseur

http://www.gata.org/node/wallstreetjournal

lire également et à ce sujet :
Jason Hommel: Go GATA, go gold, en cliquant ici
Hommel ( et d'autres ) envisagent ce qu'on appellera plus tard , le Gata Gold rallye Wink

ou encore, jérome R.Corsi,
Half of gold in central banks gone?
Watchdog: 'We want to expose and stop the manipulation'

cliquez ici
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

un des Gata soldier nous a concocté un petit préambule qui en dit long.. tchin

source http://www.lemetropolecafe.com/

On US gold reserves:
Bill,
As we approach the release of GATA’s Wall Street Journal advertisement, I thought it would be a good idea to check the latest U.S. Mint reports. On November 14, 2007, the Office of Inspector General issued a report titled "Audit of the United States Mint’s Schedule of Custodial Deep Storage Gold and Silver Reserves".
http://www.ustreas.gov/inspector-general/audit-reports/2008/oig08001R.pdf.
Under section B – Basis of Presentation of page 14 they have the following paragraph:
"This schedule has been prepared to report the deep storage gold and silver reserves custodial position of the United States Mint. The books and records of the United States Mint have served as the source of the information contained herein. This schedule has been prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America GAPP and United States Mint accounting policies."
Please note the underlined sentence. The auditors just review the books and records. In other words, no physical measurement of the precious metals was done. By the way, books and records are exactly what you would count if the holdings were swapped, leased or yet to be mined. The stated deep storage gold holdings are 245,262,897.04 ounces. This amount has not changed one gram for the entire 7 years of the Bush administration. On a personal level, the only other person who knows the combination to my safe is my wife. I trust her with this knowledge, but I am not going to go 7 years trusting her accounting of and access to our holdings with out any physical counting of the metal for myself. Regards,
-Bryant
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

comme prévu/ voulu ... la pub du W street journal fait le tour du monde..

http://www.gata.org/node/5982

Russian financial Internet site notes GATA's ad in The Wall Street Journal

Submitted by cpowell on 08:21PM ET Wednesday, February 6, 2008. Section: Daily Dispatches
8:15p ET Wednesday, February 6, 2008

Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:

Our friend Dmitriy Balkovskiy has written a report about GATA's advertisement in The Wall Street Journal for the Russian Internet site of financial news and commentary, Bankir.ru, which appears to be based in Moscow. While the report is in Russian, it could turn out to be more important than anything written about GATA in English or any other language, given the demonstrated past interest of the Russian central bank in GATA's work and the ability of that central bank to wreck the gold price suppression scheme. You can find Balkovskiy's report here:

http://bankir.ru/news/author/dmitry/472/114300

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et aussi en afrique du sud

source www.metropolecafe.com

Speaking of our ad, GREAT NEWS. South Africans for a Free Gold Market have come through again. Chris Hellinger, Casper Wolff and Quinton George ponied up $64,000 to put our ad in Business Day, South African’s version of our WSJ, tomorrow. GATA can’t thank them enough.
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

à la fois en relation avec le refrain des ventes gold fmi
http://000999.forumactif.com/les-hard-investors-f7/g7-approuve-vente-gold-fmi-t8035.htm
et cette file ci concernant l'action entreprise par le GATA concernant les véritables gold réserves des USA

il est particuliérement savoureux d'avoir ces 1ers éléments de réponse concernant l'or du FMI.. ça donne un sacré avant gout de ce qu'il en est pour l'or US!!!

aaarf

First, correspondence between GATA and the International Monetary Fund suggests that the IMF cannot or will not account for the gold it claims to be preparing to sell. That is, the IMF will not specify how much of its gold is held at each its four national depositories, nor disclose whether that gold is audited. Further, the IMF's correspondence with GATA implies that the IMF's gold is actually just a claim on the gold reserves of its member nations, not gold segregated in any way from those national reserves.

le FMI ne peut pas ou ne souhaite pas compter le montant des réserves d'or qu'il prétend se préparer à vendre

le FMI ne précise pas quel est le montant des réserves stockées auprès des 4 principaux "gardiens" sur le territoire national , pas plus qu'il ne précise si le montant de ses réserves a fait l'objet d'un audit

l'or du FMI n'est qu'une créance sur l'or des réserves de ses pays membres, et en aucune manière l'or séparé des mêmes réserves nationales

olala c'est un scoop ça .... lisez et relisez bien ....

apres faudra se demander comment tout cela est compté :

créance du fmi : compté une fois
est ce que cette créance du fmi est décomptée des réserves nationales des pays membres??.. car ds le cas contraire, on aurait ENCORE des réserves comptées 2 fois ..

hum

Second, the Federal Reserve, in response to GATA's freedom-of-information request for access to documents involving gold swaps, has confirmed that it has such documents, that some of those documents contain secrets about gold, and that the
Fed plans to keep these secrets.

2- la fed en réponse à la freedom information act du Gata, pour accéder aux documents relatifs aux préts de gold, a confirmé qu'elle avait bien de tels documents, que certains d'entre eux contenaient des informations confidentielles , que la FED entend conserver confidentiels

CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.

http://www.gata.org/node/6243
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

extrait

But GATA may have somewhat bigger news than that today.
Last week GATA's Washington law firm, William J. Olson P.C. of McLean, Virginia, received a letter from the Federal Reserve in response to the freedom-of-information request we sent to the Fed and the Treasury back in December, seeking access to all documents in their possession that mention "gold swaps." The Fed's letter confirms that it has such documents and says that some of them will be made available to us but others will not be made available or will be redacted because they contain, among other things, "trade secrets" and "privileged or confidential" memorandums or letters. By telephone the Fed has told our law firm that about 400 pages are being reviewed for release to us.
Right now we can only speculate about these documents, but the Fed's letter does admit something important: that the U.S. government knows things about gold that it does not want the public to know, that the U.S. government has secrets about gold, and that these secrets involve the gold market, not the mere location of U.S. government gold reserves.
Maybe the financial media should pursue these issues too. For what is there to hide about the U.S. gold reserves unless it involves market manipulation?

http://www.gata.org/node/6241
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GATA appeals Fed's denial of access to gold records

Submitted by cpowell on Thu, 2008-05-22 19:00. Section: Daily Dispatches
3p ET Thursday, May 22, 2008
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
In response to our request for access to documents involving gold swaps and the U.S. gold reserve, the Federal Reserve Board has provided GATA about 900 pages that are nearly all just copies of correspondence from the public to the Fed. As might be expected, the only documents that seem as if they might have useful information have been withheld from us or redacted into meaninglessness.
But as you may see from the most recent letter from GATA's Washington law firm, William J. Olson P.C. of McLean, Virginia, GATA is pursuing the Fed's appeal procedure in regard to the withholding and redacting, and our freedom-of-information initiative already has proven worthwhile. For it has established that the Federal Reserve does have secrets about the U.S. gold reserve -- that things have been done with their gold that the American people might object to if they were allowed to know, or that things have been done with the gold reserve that can be accomplished only by deceiving the financial markets.
The Fed's acknowledgement that it is withholding information about the U.S. gold reserve may be taken as more evidence that the U.S. government is surreptitiously manipulating the gold market.
You can find GATA's letter of appeal here:
http://www.gata.org/files/GATA-FedFOIAppeal.pdf
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer
Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
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skipper Inscrit le : 05 Fév 2005 Messages : 8688

2 nouveaux courriers ont été échangé , où il est bien question de gold swaps Wink

, sans que leurs auteurs en disent d'avantage .. mdr1

http://www.gata.org/node/6385
et les commentaires sur le midas

Bill, Chris,
The letter responding to the GATA FOIA request from Treasury is a complete joke. The letter is signed by Tim Dulaney. The e-mail that has been attached is the print out of a message that has been forwarded to Tim Dulaney from Tim Dulaney’s Blackberry!!!
This header shows it is being displayed by Outlook on a desktop or laptop computer……

But look at what was forwarded

Tim Dulaney was on the CC of the original message. This means he must have received the original message on his laptop as well. When a message is forwarded it can also be EDITED without trace. Why hasn’t the original message been provided instead of this forwarded message?
Are they really serious that the change to the Treasury website reserve accounting in compliance with IMF template was only ever documented or referenced by this one solitary e-mail???!!! That is a joke!
While doing a Google search on Tim Dulaney and Treasury I found the following document that credits Dulaney with input.
The Exchange Stabilization Fund: How It Works
QUOTE
William P. Osterberg is a senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, and
James B. Thomson is a vice president and economist at the Bank. The authors are grateful to Tim Dulaney, Owen Humpage, Dino Kos, and Walker Todd for numerous helpful comments and suggestions.
END
http://www.clevelandfed.org/research/commentary/1999/1201.pdf
This document includes the following
QUOTE
Thus the relevant measure of resources available for ESF interventions depends on whether foreign exchange is being bought or sold. Dollar assets are needed to buy foreign-currency-denominated assets. On the other hand, purchases of dollars are financed from international reserves, which include official holdings of gold, foreign government securities or deposits at foreign central banks, the reserve position in the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and special drawing rights (SDRs). ESF accounting for SDRs provides another example of why total assets is a poor measure of available resources. The SDR is an international reserve asset created by the IMF (under the First Amendment to its Articles of Agreement) to supplement existing reserve assets. The value of an SDR is determined by reference to a basket of currencies of the five largest industrial-economy member countries of the IMF. Pursuant to the Special Drawing Rights Act of 1968, SDRs allocated to the United States or otherwise acquired by the United States are resources of the ESF.
END
The Treasury is clearly hiding something.
Cheers
Adrian

Chris,
Even the tone of this e-mail seems conspiratorial. It roughly translates to: Hey, we have been forced to change our gold reserve accounting; probably no one will notice [because we have put everyone to sleep about gold with our manipulation of the gold price] but if anyone asks tell them this [this is not the truth but it will do].
I wonder if Tim Dulaney knows Scott McClellan!
Cheers
Adrian
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