Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Dim 17 Juin 2007 - 14:50
Gata lance une demande d'information,au sens juridique du terme,sur les réserves d'or des usa .. -combien en reste t'il et à qui appartient'il? -quid des préts ou autre leasing ( et si oui, à qui ? institutions financiéres agissant sur le marché de l'or ou gouvernements étrangers ?) -et enfin,déterminer si les régles et usages concernant l'or des US ont pour but d'influencer le cours de l'or
pour ce faire , il fait appel à un consultant, spécialisé en droit constitutionnel américain, dont la mission sera de sélectionner un cabinet d'avocats à washington afin de préparer une demande d'information dans le cadre du federal freedom of information act
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Jeu 25 Oct 2007 - 0:41
le plan de campagne du Gata sur ce sujet est fin prêt ! et la période qui s'ouvre, on ne peut plus favorable, et pour 2 raisons - nouvelles régles de transparence édictées par le FMI ( voir plus bas ) - changement tout récent et signalé ici, dans le mode de comptabilisation du gold US
En effet,à l'occasion de la parution des nvelles régles de tranparence du FMI et donc de la comptabilisation du gold par les BC..on a la confirmation que les préts ( loans, avances et autres swaps ) devront être mentionnés ... le tout pour 2008 .. ce qui ne manquera pas de faire envoler les cours de l'once .
on verra donc dés 2008 que l'ensemble des BC occidentales n'a que la moitié de l'or qu'elle prétendait avoir .. le reste ayant été mis à la disposition des B banks, pour impacter négativement, le cour de l'or.
Gata va donc lancer un freedom information act à la Fed et au Tresor US, leur demandant le statut précis des réserves de gold US..avec tout l'historique et plein d'autres Q qui devraient confirmer et valider les travaux et recherches effectuées depuis 1999.
s'il refusent de répondre, le Gata poursuivra avec plus d'une centaine de Q préparées minutieusement et depuis 4 mois ...
restons à l'écoute, ça promet d'être une très belle bataille !
source Midas
Now for the bonanza news for our camp… Late yesterday and today I learned the following from Neal Ryan who presented remarkably astute commentary when he worked with Blanchard & Co. He has learned that the: "IMF adoption on new transparency rules governing all fiscal assets (including gold reserves) has been fully and formally adopted, while just being made available on their website.
Here is the link:
http://www.imf.org/external/np/pp/2007/eng/101907m.pdf There is nary a mention of gold until you reach page 74 and 75 in the document, but it's there without much description other than to say "additional breakdowns of assets should be provided...including loans and advances..."reporting loans and swaps of gold reserves.
The new changes are set to go starting in 2008." Fabulous Neal and thanks … yeah baby, for whatever reason the bums are in big trouble and GATA is preparing an all out attack to bury them… *Based on the Treasury’s own web site, we know some percentage of US gold reserves has been mobilized to some degree via some kind of gold loan/swap operations. THIS despite denials of such activity to the GATA camp for the last 9 years. *If a majority of the IMF central banks comply with this requirement, the investment world will realize the central banks have HALF the gold they SAID they had. The jig will be up and there will be a rush for gold like never seen in history. *GATA will soon launch a well publicized Freedom of Information Act request to the Fed and Treasury to account for the exact status of US gold reserves. All we will be asking for as US citizens is the truth. God forbid us peons should request such a thing as far as our US government is concerned. *When they refuse to tell the American people the truth and not respond to our request, we will sue their butts. In addition to Edwin Vierra, GATA has retained the appropriate law firm to take the Fed and Treasury to court to compel them to answer the 100 QUESTIONS we have prepared. GATA has been diligently working on this for 4 months. We are ready to launch our latest ENVELOPING HORN (see SHAKA) battle tactic.
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Sam 27 Oct 2007 - 18:39
New IMF transparency rules likely prompted change in U.S. gold report, ici
et comme indiqué en tête de file :
Citation:
So a lot remains to be done before central banks come clean about their gold reserves. GATA aims to press the Treasury Department about this in a formal and legally demanding way in coming days.
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Ven 7 Déc 2007 - 19:19
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Sam 19 Jan 2008 - 22:00
1ere manche : une page de pub ds le wall street journal, une gde 1ere... pour le Gata, qui a tjs été censuré par les médias ..... histoire d'attirer l'attention du gd public, sur la question ... en préambule au lancement de la phase "freedom of information act"
Wall Street Journal agrees to print full-page ad from GATA
Submitted by cpowell on Fri, 2008-01-18 21:46. Section: Daily Dispatches 1:45p PT Friday, January 18, 2008 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: This month GATA will place a full-page advertisement in The Wall Street Journal calling attention to the international central bank scheme to suppress the price of gold and to GATA's conference in Washington in April. The ad was devised with great care by GATA's Board of Directors over the last several weeks and The Wall Street Journal today confirmed to GATA that it will publish the ad as submitted. In the belief that this ad can strike a profound blow against the rigging of the gold market and all related markets, GATA has cobbled together assets valued at the more than quarter-million dollars to be charged by the newspaper for printing the ad and expects to convert them to U.S. dollars and make payment to the newspaper next week. You can see the advertisement here: http://www.gata.org/files/GATA-AD-01-14-2008.pdf Please distribute the ad to anyone who might be interested in it. GATA is not asking for contributions to underwrite the ad particularly. But if you approve of GATA's work generally (and would like to help us get our children back), you can learn how to support GATA financially here: http://www.gata.org/node/16 CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc. * * * Join GATA here: Vancouver Resource Investment Conference Sunday-Monday, January 20-21,2008 Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada http://www.cambridgeconferences.com GATA Goes to Washington -- Anybody Seen Our Gold? Thursday-Saturday, April 17-19, 2008 Hyatt Regency Crystal City, Arlington, Virginia http://www.gata.org/washington * * * Help Keep GATA Going GATA is a civil rights and educational organization based in the United States and tax-exempt under the U.S. Internal Revenue Code. Its e-mail dispatches are free, and you can subscribe at http://www.gata.org/. GATA is grateful for financial contributions, which are federally tax-deductible in the United States.
lire également et à ce sujet : Jason Hommel: Go GATA, go gold, en cliquant ici Hommel ( et d'autres ) envisagent ce qu'on appellera plus tard , le Gata Gold rallye
ou encore, jérome R.Corsi, Half of gold in central banks gone? Watchdog: 'We want to expose and stop the manipulation'
On US gold reserves: Bill, As we approach the release of GATA’s Wall Street Journal advertisement, I thought it would be a good idea to check the latest U.S. Mint reports. On November 14, 2007, the Office of Inspector General issued a report titled "Audit of the United States Mint’s Schedule of Custodial Deep Storage Gold and Silver Reserves". http://www.ustreas.gov/inspector-general/audit-reports/2008/oig08001R.pdf. Under section B – Basis of Presentation of page 14 they have the following paragraph: "This schedule has been prepared to report the deep storage gold and silver reserves custodial position of the United States Mint. The books and records of the United States Mint have served as the source of the information contained herein. This schedule has been prepared in accordance with accounting principles generally accepted in the United States of America GAPP and United States Mint accounting policies." Please note the underlined sentence. The auditors just review the books and records. In other words, no physical measurement of the precious metals was done. By the way, books and records are exactly what you would count if the holdings were swapped, leased or yet to be mined. The stated deep storage gold holdings are 245,262,897.04 ounces.This amount has not changed one gram for the entire 7 years of the Bush administration.On a personal level, the only other person who knows the combination to my safe is my wife. I trust her with this knowledge, but I am not going to go 7 years trusting her accounting of and access to our holdings with out any physical counting of the metal for myself. Regards, -Bryant
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Ven 8 Fév 2008 - 1:35
comme prévu/ voulu ... la pub du W street journal fait le tour du monde..
Russian financial Internet site notes GATA's ad in The Wall Street Journal
Submitted by cpowell on 08:21PM ET Wednesday, February 6, 2008. Section: Daily Dispatches 8:15p ET Wednesday, February 6, 2008
Dear Friend of GATA and Gold:
Our friend Dmitriy Balkovskiy has written a report about GATA's advertisement in The Wall Street Journal for the Russian Internet site of financial news and commentary, Bankir.ru, which appears to be based in Moscow. While the report is in Russian, it could turn out to be more important than anything written about GATA in English or any other language, given the demonstrated past interest of the Russian central bank in GATA's work and the ability of that central bank to wreck the gold price suppression scheme. You can find Balkovskiy's report here:
Speaking of our ad, GREAT NEWS. South Africans for a Free Gold Market have come through again. Chris Hellinger, Casper Wolff and Quinton George ponied up $64,000 to put our ad in Business Day, South African’s version of our WSJ, tomorrow. GATA can’t thank them enough.
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Dim 20 Avr 2008 - 1:49
il est particuliérement savoureux d'avoir ces 1ers éléments de réponse concernant l'or du FMI.. ça donne un sacré avant gout de ce qu'il en est pour l'or US!!!
First, correspondence between GATA and the International Monetary Fund suggests that the IMF cannot or will not account for the gold it claims to be preparing to sell. That is, the IMF will not specify how much of its gold is held at each its four national depositories, nor disclose whether that gold is audited. Further, the IMF's correspondence with GATA implies that the IMF's gold is actually just a claim on the gold reserves of its member nations, not gold segregated in any way from those national reserves.
le FMI ne peut pas ou ne souhaite pas compter le montant des réserves d'or qu'il prétend se préparer à vendre
le FMI ne précise pas quel est le montant des réserves stockées auprès des 4 principaux "gardiens" sur le territoire national , pas plus qu'il ne précise si le montant de ses réserves a fait l'objet d'un audit
l'or du FMI n'est qu'une créance sur l'or des réserves de ses pays membres, et en aucune manière l'or séparé des mêmes réserves nationales
olala c'est un scoop ça .... lisez et relisez bien ....
apres faudra se demander comment tout cela est compté :
créance du fmi : compté une fois est ce que cette créance du fmi est décomptée des réserves nationales des pays membres??.. car ds le cas contraire, on aurait ENCORE des réserves comptées 2 fois ..
hum
Second, the Federal Reserve, in response to GATA's freedom-of-information request for access to documents involving gold swaps, has confirmed that it has such documents, that some of those documents contain secrets about gold, and that the Fed plans to keep these secrets.
2- la fed en réponse à la freedom information act du Gata, pour accéder aux documents relatifs aux préts de gold, a confirmé qu'elle avait bien de tels documents, que certains d'entre eux contenaient des informations confidentielles , que la FED entend conserver confidentiels
CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
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Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Lun 21 Avr 2008 - 16:15
extrait
But GATA may have somewhat bigger news than that today. Last week GATA's Washington law firm, William J. Olson P.C. of McLean, Virginia, received a letter from the Federal Reserve in response to the freedom-of-information request we sent to the Fed and the Treasury back in December, seeking access to all documents in their possession that mention "gold swaps." The Fed's letter confirms that it has such documents and says that some of them will be made available to us but others will not be made available or will be redacted because they contain, among other things, "trade secrets" and "privileged or confidential" memorandums or letters. By telephone the Fed has told our law firm that about 400 pages are being reviewed for release to us. Right now we can only speculate about these documents, but the Fed's letter does admit something important: that the U.S. government knows things about gold that it does not want the public to know, that the U.S. government has secrets about gold, and that these secrets involve the gold market, not the mere location of U.S. government gold reserves. Maybe the financial media should pursue these issues too. For what is there to hide about the U.S. gold reserves unless it involves market manipulation?
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Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Sam 24 Mai 2008 - 0:44
GATA appeals Fed's denial of access to gold records
Submitted by cpowell on Thu, 2008-05-22 19:00. Section: Daily Dispatches 3p ET Thursday, May 22, 2008 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: In response to our request for access to documents involving gold swaps and the U.S. gold reserve, the Federal Reserve Board has provided GATA about 900 pages that are nearly all just copies of correspondence from the public to the Fed. As might be expected, the only documents that seem as if they might have useful information have been withheld from us or redacted into meaninglessness. But as you may see from the most recent letter from GATA's Washington law firm, William J. Olson P.C. of McLean, Virginia, GATA is pursuing the Fed's appeal procedure in regard to the withholding and redacting, and our freedom-of-information initiative already has proven worthwhile. For it has established that the Federal Reserve does have secrets about the U.S. gold reserve -- that things have been done with their gold that the American people might object to if they were allowed to know, or that things have been done with the gold reserve that can be accomplished only by deceiving the financial markets. The Fed's acknowledgement that it is withholding information about the U.S. gold reserve may be taken as more evidence that the U.S. government is surreptitiously manipulating the gold market. You can find GATA's letter of appeal here: http://www.gata.org/files/GATA-FedFOIAppeal.pdf CHRIS POWELL, Secretary/Treasurer Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee Inc.
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Lun 23 Juin 2008 - 13:43
2 nouveaux courriers ont été échangé , où il est bien question de gold swaps , sans que leurs auteurs en disent d'avantage ..
Bill, Chris, The letter responding to the GATA FOIA request from Treasury is a complete joke. The letter is signed by Tim Dulaney. The e-mail that has been attached is the print out of a message that has been forwarded to Tim Dulaney from Tim Dulaney’s Blackberry!!! This header shows it is being displayed by Outlook on a desktop or laptop computer…… But look at what was forwarded Tim Dulaney was on the CC of the original message. This means he must have received the original message on his laptop as well. When a message is forwarded it can also be EDITED without trace. Why hasn’t the original message been provided instead of this forwarded message? Are they really serious that the change to the Treasury website reserve accounting in compliance with IMF template was only ever documented or referenced by this one solitary e-mail???!!! That is a joke! While doing a Google search on Tim Dulaney and Treasury I found the following document that credits Dulaney with input. The Exchange Stabilization Fund: How It Works QUOTE William P. Osterberg is a senior economist at the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland, and James B. Thomson is a vice president and economist at the Bank. The authors are grateful to Tim Dulaney, Owen Humpage, Dino Kos, and Walker Todd for numerous helpful comments and suggestions. END http://www.clevelandfed.org/research/commentary/1999/1201.pdf This document includes the following QUOTE Thus the relevant measure of resources available for ESF interventions depends on whether foreign exchange is being bought or sold. Dollar assets are needed to buy foreign-currency-denominated assets. On the other hand, purchases of dollars are financed from international reserves, which include official holdings of gold, foreign government securities or deposits at foreign central banks, the reserve position in the International Monetary Fund (IMF), and special drawing rights (SDRs). ESF accounting for SDRs provides another example of why total assets is a poor measure of available resources. The SDR is an international reserve asset created by the IMF (under the First Amendment to its Articles of Agreement) to supplement existing reserve assets. The value of an SDR is determined by reference to a basket of currencies of the five largest industrial-economy member countries of the IMF. Pursuant to the Special Drawing Rights Act of 1968, SDRs allocated to the United States or otherwise acquired by the United States are resources of the ESF. END The Treasury is clearly hiding something. Cheers Adrian
Chris, Even the tone of this e-mail seems conspiratorial. It roughly translates to: Hey, we have been forced to change our gold reserve accounting; probably no one will notice [because we have put everyone to sleep about gold with our manipulation of the gold price] but if anyone asks tell them this [this is not the truth but it will do]. I wonder if Tim Dulaney knows Scott McClellan! Cheers Adrian
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Mar 26 Aoû 2008 - 5:00
curieuses coincidences, depuis l'opération lancée par le Gata, la "fable " des ventes gold 403 T par le le FMI a fait long feu .., voir la file fmi, ici
silence radio sur les ondes ..
se pourrait'il que nous ayions un "petit pb' avec les 403 T d'or du cambodge cédées au FMI en 1999-2000 or immédiatement prété par le dépositaire à une bullion banque et shorté sur le comex ... au cours de 300$ l'once petit pb: la banque s'est engagé à retourner le gold ainsi emprunté .. pas rembourser en $ .. , nuance !
DONC, 2008 arrive et le FMI aimerait bien disposer de ce gold ...pour le vendre, comme annoncé à gd renfort de trompettes ..
fastoche, il sufit que la bullion banque rachéte ces 403 T au cours actuel et encaisse une perte de 6 milliards de $
pour le moment, on rigole encore ...c'est pas voté ... mais imaginez un peu si le congres, à qui on n'aurait pas dit toute la vérité, votait cette vente du FMI ... bonjour le merdier ..des déluges d'offres d'achat au portillon ... ça ferait désordre
peut être bien pour ça qu'on n'en parle plus, de cette fameuse vente gold FMI..
Good Afternoon Bill (from Qatar) Who still focuses on the vague "non answers" given by Conny Lotze, an IMF press officer ,to the probing questions of GATA's own Chris Powell back in April 08? That date just about coincides with the issue of the proposed sale of 403.3 tons of IMF gold COMPLETELY FALLING OFF THE RADAR SCREEN. After the G7 meeting earlier this year, there are literally thousands of references to this proposed sale. Then suddenly complete silence, coinciding with just about the precise minute that Conny Lotze admitted that she was close to clueless as to the specific details of the whereabouts of the IMF's gold hoardings of 3,217 metric tons.Why so much noise and initial excitement and then silence? WAS GATA GETTING TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT? Bill, I have spent hundreds of hours trying to understand IMF gold holdings. Permit me to tabulate my thoughts and then let anyone with more precise knowledge on this arcane subject rebut them. 1.The 25% initial quota subscriptions of the member countries to the IMF were only ever PLEDGED in gold, and no physical tranfers of the metal occurred, leading to the further presumption that in many instances the IMF's reported gold hoardings have continued to be DOUBLE COUNTED as both reserves of the IMF and (part of) the reserves of the pledging central banks. 2.By the IMF's own admission the gold received from Cambodia of 0.7tons in 1992 and 402.6 tons received in 1999-2000 as repayment of IMF credits (total 403.3 tons) was always housed by a designated depository. 3. The depository (BOE?/FED?) then leased this 403.3 tons of gold to a bullion bank who then bombed the spot market. The bullion bank enjoys the proceeds of this gold sale (and pays a minuscule lease rental) but also has a "nominal" obligation to the depository for the return of the swapped gold. 4.2008 arrives and the IMF wants to dispose of this 403 tons. A very bad time for the bullion bank to enter the spot market and repurchase 403 tons of physical gold. Simple-pay up the current value of the 403 tons to the depository who then transmits the dollars to the IMF. No disruption to the spot gold market. One small problem-if the leased gold was sold around 2001, the gold price was well south of $300 per oz. and consequently somebody now has to book a realised loss of up to $6 billion dollars, just when the bullion banks are under the microscope for other categories of loss -but not an insurmountable problem with a FED loan and a John Negroponte reporting exemption. 5.The real problem could occur if the USA Congress gives approval for the IMF sale. The internet is full of speculation about "non compliant" central banks (and others) lining up to buy 403 tons of gold at today's bargain basement prices. The IMF could receive a deluge of offers! Think of the disorderly consequences for the gold market if the truth was ever leaked that the IMF gold has long ago been sold. The aggrieved parties might still decide to enter the physical gold market anyway, realizing the future implications of the unravelling of the gold price suppression conspiracy. Now is a particularly inconvenient time for the world's attention to be turned towards the opaque world of the true state of central bank gold reserves and the ("criminal") suppression of the gold price. The simple solution is that which we are now witnessing- veil the issue of proposed IMF gold sales in absolute silence. Does this explanation make sense? How otherwise do you explain such a hot topic as IMF gold sales being completely and suddenly atomized? Regards Nicholas
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tiens donc c'est bizzarre, mais les récentes révélations de Butler sur les agissements de 3 bancaires US sur gold market pourraient bien trouver ici, leur explication
- plus 244 T shortées sur gold comex entre juillet et aout par 3 banques us - soldes des ventes WAG en cours sur le quota de 500 t / 180 t soit un total de 424 T
ça collerait pil poil avec l'agenda du vote du congrés, qui aurait Pu exiger des banques us qu'elles agissent préalablement, en tant que vendeuses de cet or prété ?..
possiblement citi, morgan et bank of américa .. qui auraient donc agi sur ordre..et pour une opération blanche, hors commissions de courtage .. qui aurait servi des intérets communs .. à la politique monétaire us, aux banques us en question, tout en sauvant la mise de la bb emprunteuse des 400 T du FMI... ça fait beaucoup d'intérets convergents, tout ça ..
c'est un scénario tout à fait crédible ma foi .. et si tel est le cas .. l'or du fmi a déja été vendu ( préalablement à un vote, soit dit en passant )..
et pire encore, il a été vendu, alors qu'il n'était pas dans ses coffres ...
ne vous laissez pas berner, quand ils annonceront le vote favorable du congrès
Gold and the IMF… Bill, Connecting the dots between Ted Butler’s discovery of massive bank sales of Comex gold and Nicholas’ missive on the status of remaining WAG2 sales and the proposed IMF sales we may have the cause of this latest gold price mauling. Could the U.S. Congress have promised that it would approve the IMF gold sale of 403.3 tonnes with the condition that U.S. banks act as the sales agent for much or all of this gold. The IMF would definitely get a much better price by having sold in the previous weeks than if it waited until after Congressional approval. This gold could have been sold by these 3 banks, probably Citi, Morgan, and Bank of America, via Comex December 08 futures, knowing that this gold would be released by then. This would be a no lose trade by these banks as they would get a commission either way and if prices dropped they could rebuy cheaper and if prices rose they were backstopped by real physical gold. The 11 fold increase is futures sales by the 3 banks, noted by Butler, was from 778,700 ounces to 8,639,800 ounces. This is an increase of 244.5 tonnes which is in the ballpark with the proposed IMF sale of 403.3 tonnes and the remaining WAG2 2008 sales of 180 tonnes. Additional IMF sales could be attributed to the 2009 year sales as well. This arrangement would serve the U.S. governments needs well in that it would contribute needed funds to these banks, would bash the gold price, and increase the U.S. dollar. So far it looks like mission accomplished for the Wall Street thugs. Regards, -Bryant
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marie skipper
Nombre de messages: 11353 Date d'inscription: 05/02/2005
Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Mer 15 Avr 2009 - 16:09
du fait du changement de présidence, Gata remet à nouveau le couvert... nouvelles injonctions au trésor et à la fed
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Sujet: Re: GATA /freedom of information act/US gold réserves Mer 23 Sep 2009 - 21:02
du nouveau à ce sujet , et du gros ..
la fed reconnait bel et bien qu'elle a eu des arrangements sur des gold swaps avec d'autres bques centrales ... mais refuse de donner d'avantage de détails
ça tombe très bien tout ça ... avec Ron Paul et sa campagne pour un audit de la Fed ... et Obama qui compte rendre plus difficile au gouvernement de se retrancher derrière le secret d'état, lorqu'il cache certains détails stratégiques
Report: Obama to Raise Bar for State Secrets Administration will unveil a new policy that will make it much more difficult for the government to claim it is protecting state secrets when it hides details of sensitive national security strategies
FOXNews.com
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