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réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Jeu 22 Oct 2009 - 23:23 | |
| la russie vendrait 45 T or, d'ici la fin du mois .. info ou intox? www.lemetropolecafe.comTheBullion Desk.com Russia could sell 45t from gold reserves by end of month - sourceLondon, 22 October 2009 - A large consignment of gold to be sold into the loco London market by a state-backed Russian body, as reported earlier today, could top 45 tonnes and may take place by the end of this month, a Russian expert said. The government agency for precious metals and minerals, Gokhran, intends to sell its first large shipment of gold since the Soviet era, Russian news agency Interfax reported today. The sale would take place via state-owned export trading company Almazjuvelir, based in Moscow, on the London fix, Interfax reported, citing an unnamed source. The news surprised Russia watchers in the London bullion market - the move would run counter to a trend by Russia's central bank over the past two years to increase its purchases of gold. In September, the central bank of the Russian Federation added 12.9 tonnes to its gold reserves, bringing its total gold purchases for this year to more than 70 tonnes and eclipsing the whole of its purchases for 2008, which stood at 69 tonnes. But the central bank and Gokhran operate independently, several sources said, raising the credibility of the story. "It's possible. Gokhran holds gold, platinum and possibly silver. It goes back to the dark old murky days when Russia used to hide inventories from the market," one trader said. "The two big questions are: who has said it - does he have authority - and what is ‘big’?" The story appears to be backed up by evidence in Russia's draft budget for 2010-2012, released earlier this month. A Russian expert, who declined to be named, said via email: "You have to remember that the Byzantine Empire often employs a well-organised planned approach to commercial activities. Gold is generically viewed there as an asset of the last resort - not a particularly desired one that has to be flogged off as soon as possible." Gokhran (or Go-Hran) is effectively a depository that keeps the metal and then sells it if and when it is ordered to do so by the Finance Ministry (MinFin), the source said. The bulk of Gokhran assets consists of palladium and diamonds, with gold competing with diamonds for second place, the source added. When MinFin gives an instruction to sell from its assets, it formulates it in financial rather than physical terms. "In other words, they just tell Go-Hran that they expect X roubles from them. Nevertheless, they normally 'give an indication' to Go-Hran what particular asset they’d like Go-Hran to sell," the source said. "Other than that, there is no guidance of physical volumes, particular shape of material [or] the market where it should be sold." The budget lists planned sales of precious metals and gemstones this year of 47.4 billion roubles, with procurements falling to -45.415 billion roubles, according to a report from Interfax dated October 2. "In [this] particular case, MinFin 'guided' Go-Hran to achieve the bulk revenue of 47.4 billion roubles ($1.63 billion), of which 44.4 billion should be coming from gold," the source said. "If you look at the yesterday’s price and assume the sales go the way they are described... it translates into about 1.4 million ounces (or 44.9 tonnes) of gold." While there is no indication on the likely timing of the sale, "taking into account the usual cycle of the Russian budgetary process, I’d expect... by the end of this month", the source added. Speculation this month has also been rife on the possibility of official sector or central bank activity in the gold market. On the October 9 London afternoon fix, an unusually large volume of around 800 bars or 10 ten tonnes was purchased. "Maybe the big volumes we have seen on some of the fixes recently is exactly that - China buy / Russia sell," another trader said. -END- Hmmm … speaking of disinformation, the Russians are all-pros in this regard. Yes, this report might be true, but it doesn’t jibe with everything else we know. The Russians are known throughout the world as superb traders, among the very best. Would they let information out like this if they are really going to sell a fair amount of gold? In the late 70’s I worked at Shearson Hayden Stone as a commodities broker and I had a Russian partner, Gregory Kheifets, from Leningrad. The Russians were known as great traders back in those days too. It was right after their renowned grain heist from the US and traders all over were curious what the Russians were up to in the commodities markets. So much so that Ralston Purina flew Gregory and I out to St. Louis to make a presentation in front of their Board. The Russians are now at the top of the gold producing world. Putting out a bearish story is not up their alley, UNLESS, they really want to BUY. ************** voir également ici http://www.forbes.com/feeds/reuters/2009/10/23/2009-10-23T134018Z_01_LN274842_RTRIDST_0_GOLD-RUSSIA-UPDATE-3.html Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par nofear Ven 23 Oct 2009 - 10:12 | |
| la pseudo-vente FMI a fait long feu on dirait... On nous sort un nouveau hochet ?
Si les russes vendent effectivement ces 45 tonnes c'est uniquement pour soutenir le dollar et les Tbonds qui vont bien avec de l'effondrement trop rapide , alimenter le marché du physique à sec. Une paille .
Rumeur à confirmer qui de toute façon ne change rien à la donne fondamentale. Ils achètent du temps. Un coup de poker menteur.
rajout 14h32 P'tain et en plus Harvey idit com moi con.
The Russians are the most savvy investors known. They are gold lovers and wish to participate with China in a new currency backed by gold.Russia is not stupid. Do you think that they would announce that they were going to sell gold and then do so in similar fashion as the stupid British Government?Not a chance. Consider this is an official announcement that Russia is in the market to PURCHASE gold.On a side issue: have you noticed that there is no word on the sale of the 403 tonnes of IMF gold. Do you know why? Because the Chinese were informed that the gold is gone or encumbered. |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Ven 23 Oct 2009 - 18:36 | |
| hihi ... i agree, les russes, s'ils voulaient vendre ( au meilleur prix, bien entendu ) ne l'annonceraient pas à l'avance .. en plus, ils savent parfaitement, comment fonctionne ce marché.. veulent faire baisser un chouilla, pour ramasser à moins cher?? Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par g.sandro Ven 23 Oct 2009 - 19:31 | |
| Bawi; Les russkofs sont des stratèges... comme l'a appris Von Paulus à ses dépends à Stalingrad ... Car Popov ...casse parov... ...et Cheik Aymat En attendant ça pourrait permettre aux Oscillos de se détendre et à mes PBPs de s'avérer rentables... Forza Russia...!!! Silver is king, Go Gold !
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Mar 27 Oct 2009 - 22:44 | |
| la russie reporte son projet de vente d'or .. parceque la nouvelle a été divulguée si c'est pas les rois de la désinformation, avec ça .. bref de l'intox, pile poil, comme on avait dit Russia postpones plan to sell 20-50 tonnes of gold * Postponement due to plans being leaked * Sale could have brought in $1.7 bln at current prices MOSCOW, Oct 27 (Reuters) - The Russian government has postponed its plans to sell 20-50 tonnes of gold this year because information about the sale was leaked, the government agent for precious metals sales said on Tuesday. "Due to the leak of the information the sale in the reported period and in the reported form will not take place," deputy head of the agent, Almazjuvelirexport (Almaz), Sergei Gorny, told Reuters. He declined to say when the sale would take place. On Friday, sources told Reuters the government planned to sell the gold to help plug a budget deficit in the first major sale since the fall of the Soviet Union. The sales from Russia's State Precious Metals and Gems Repository (Gokhran) could account for 0.5 to 1.25 percent of global consumption of the metal, which soared to a record $1,070.40 per ounce on Oct.14 . At current prices, selling 50 tonnes of gold will have brought in $1.7 billion at a time when Russia is looking for ways to finance its budget deficits. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Ven 30 Oct 2009 - 0:01 | |
| et ça continue .. quand même !! je sais pas à quoi ils jouent, eux .. Finance Ministry could sell 25 tonnes of gold, possibly on domestic market From Interfax, Moscow Thursday, October 29, 2009 MOSCOW -- The Russian Finance Ministry has not shelved plans to sell gold from the State Precious Metals and Gemstones Repository (Gokhran) and could sell approximately 25 tonnes of the metal, possibly on the domestic market, a ministry official told Interfax. "We might not sell on the external market," Alexander Akhpolov, a department head responsible for precious metals, said. "But how can we not sell at all if we have a presidential decree and sales plan, endorsed by the government?" he said. "The decree does not specify a volume, but there is a general amount for sales by the Gokhran in total. It's not all gold -- there are other metals as well, and we plan to sell not 40-50 tonnes but something like 25 tonnes," Akhpolov said. -END- Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par nofear Ven 30 Oct 2009 - 8:41 | |
| - Citation :
- je sais pas à quoi ils jouent, eux ..
Si je décode correctement le message, il s'agit de faire une vente privée (hoax= marché intérieur) afin d'alimenter le défaut en cours des 20 tonnes à Londres... Afin que le marché n'explose pas prématurément dans l'agenda des grosses têtes. Les BC de l'ouest pro cartel sont donc A SEC ! |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par nofear Ven 30 Oct 2009 - 14:48 | |
| les russkoffs n'ont aucun intérêt comme les chinois à la mort immédiate du $. Leurs réserves papier partiraient en fumée instantanément. Il est trop tôt pour eux de tuer le $ et le remplacer par les DTS pas encore finalisés ainsi que la nouvelle organisation régionalisée/multipolaire du système financier. Les nouvelles monnaies ne sont pas encore tout à fait "prêtes". La machine gold s'emballe trop vite. Les "joueurs" d'en face n'ont pas les munitions "officielles" qu'ils déclarent détenir... |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Jeu 19 Nov 2009 - 23:52 | |
| sacrés russkoffs, les voilà qui se déclarent acheteurs, now ..950.000 onces (30 T mètriques), d'ici la fin de l'année http://en.rian.ru/russia/20091119/156903575.htmlRussia's Central Bank set to buy 965,000 oz of gold by yearend From RIA Novosti, Moscow Thursday, November 19, 2009 MOSCOW -- Russia's Central Bank said on Thursday it is ready to buy 30 metric tons (965,000 troy ounces) of gold at market prices from the country's precious metals depositary, Gokhran, by the end of the year. Central Bank First Deputy Chairman Alexei Ulyukayev said the means of payment for the gold will depend on the requirements of the Finance Ministry and will probably be denominated in rubles. Ulyukayev played down fears that the timing of the purchase could prove unfavorable given the current high price of gold, currently over $1,000 per troy ounce on global markets. "They are at the peak levels relative to the previous period, but predictions of price dynamics vary," he said. The Central Bank's announcement to buy up gold comes amid increasing international assets held by the bank, which grew by $7.8 billion in the week of November 6-13 to $441.7 billion. The cash paid for the gold will be used by the Finance Ministry to cover next year's state budget deficit, predicted at 6.8% of GDP. This year Russia is running a deficit of 7.7% of GDP. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par du-puel Ven 20 Nov 2009 - 11:24 | |
| il auraient vendu pour des USpesos ; ils achétent contre leurs propres roubles qu'ils peuvent imprimer. Au moins ces roubles-là seront-ils garantis par de l'or ... |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Sam 21 Nov 2009 - 3:09 | |
| arf les coquins !! regardez la date du post de tête de file ( 22 oct ) où ils annoncent une intention de vendre 45 T d'or et la date de cette news .. +15 .5 T ds les réserves de la BC russe pour octobre sans compter le post du 27 oct..où ils prétendent reporter cette vente, parceque son annonce aurait été divulguée ( fuites inopportunes) quel timing ________________________________________________________ www.lemetropolecafe.comThe Russian Central Bank has reported adding 15.5 tonnes (500,000 ozs) to its reserves in October, bringing them to 19.5Mm 0zs (606.6 tonnes). Most likely the purchases were from domestic producers and from Gokhran, the state agency reported to be intending to sell some time ago. * ***************** traduction : la BC Russe annonce avoir ajouté 15.5 T à ses réserves, en octobre.. les portant à 606.6 tonnes il semble que ces achats aient été fait sur la production nationale de Gokhran, dont l'intention de vendre avait été annoncée auparavant .. par l'agence de presse nationale ____________________________________________________________ lol... auparavant ... tu veux dire en même temps .. et au fait, c'est l'agence nationale qui a annoncé ça, ou ce sont des fuites soit disant inopportunes?? , faudrait savoir ! Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Ven 11 Déc 2009 - 23:44 | |
| la banque centrale russe achétera 30 tonnes à Gokhran, la semaine prochaine **************************** Russia c.bank to buy Gokhran gold next week -source * State repository to sell 30 tonnes to c.bank * Gold worth $1 billion at market price * President signed sales decree Dec. 7 - source * Replaces previous plan to sell to market * C.bank wants more gold, no price pressure
MOSCOW, Dec 11 (Reuters) - Russia's state repository will sell 30 tonnes of gold worth $1 billion to the central bank next week, a source at the body said on Friday, keeping the metal inside Russia after rethinking a plan to sell it on the market. Central banks worldwide are building up their gold reserves as the metal trades near record highs. Gokhran, the Russian repository, cancelled plans to sell the gold on the open market after information about the sale leaked. "The primary aim is to make sure this gold doesn't hit the market and influence prices," said Olga Okuneva, metals and mining analyst at Deutsche Bank in Moscow. "It's also a way for the Russian central bank to diversify more into gold."… Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Jeu 21 Jan 2010 - 0:37 | |
| sacrés ruskoff , + 800.000 onces en 1 mois ( dec 2009 ) www.lemetropolecafe.comRussian Central Bank makes very large gold purchase Good morning Bill, On a day like today, I decided to look for some good news. The Russian Central Bank just reported their gold holdings for December 2009. http://www.cbr.ru/eng/statistics/credit_statistics/print.asp?file=liquidity_e.htm The Russian central bank increased their gold holdings by 800,000 ounces in 1 month. That is the biggest one month increase since I started keeping records on October 2006. The 2nd biggest monthly increase was 600,000 ounces in July 2009. In July 2009, the price of gold was around $950/oz. The Russian central bank may have purchased this gold from the Russian agency, Gokhram. The bottom line is that the Russian central bank is publicly adding gold to their reserves and that this is the largest 1 month purchase since at least Oct. 2006. I wonder if GFMS would consider the 800,000 ounce gold purchase by the Russian central bank a "lumpy purchase" ? Does a lumpy purchase have to exceed 1,000,000 ounces in a single transaction? Maybe I should send an email to GFMS inquiring how many of these lumpy purchases have taken place over the last 3 to 6 months. Looking forward to more lumpy purchases. Paul Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Mer 3 Mar 2010 - 22:57 | |
| sacrés russes..tjs à l'achat.. en janvier 2010, ils ont augmenté leurs réserves de 560 Tonnes.. et ont donc 5% de leurs réserves en gold .. qu'ils ont l'intention ( déclarations officielles ) d'augmenter www.lemetropolecafe.com Wednesday, March 3, 2010Is Russia Vying to Buy the IMF Gold For Sale? The First Deputy Chairman of Russia's Central Bank stated in an interview with Izvestia, one of Russia's most circulated newspapers, that the Central Bank wants to increase its gold holdings. Here's the quote from Bloomberg News, which was confirmed by an official at the Central Bank (Bank Rossii): <BLOCKQUOTE>Russia’s central bank wants to increase the share of gold in its international reserves, First Deputy Chairman Alexei Ulyukayev said in an interview published in Izvestia today. His comments were confirmed by a Bank Rossii official. Here's the Bloomberg link: Link</BLOCKQUOTE> In January, the latest month for which data is available, the Russian Central bank increased its gold holdings by 800,000 ozs (approx. 22 tonnes), or 4.1%, to 20.5 million ounces (approx. 582 tons). This represents roughly 5% of Russia's foreign reserves. Typical Central Bank gold holdings globally are around 10% of reserves. When the world was on the gold standard, Central Banks held 40% of their reserves in gold.
Russia's gold holdings have increased 57% since Jan 2007 and 22% from a year ago. There is no doubt that Russia is seeking to rapidy accumulate gold. Seems to be an Eastern Hemisphere trend. Here's is graphic portrayal of the growth in Russia's gold reserves thru November 2009. This is from Richard Nachbar's http://www.coinexpert.com/: Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Mar 20 Avr 2010 - 22:51 | |
| +6.22 T en février 2010 +15.55 tonnes en mars 2010 According to thebulliondesk.com, the Russian central bank added 500,000 ozs to the country’s FX reserves in March (15.55 tonnes) compared to 6.22 tonnes in February. This metal is believed to be sourced within Russia. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Jeu 22 Avr 2010 - 1:57 | |
| graphiques des réserves gold russes, mis à jour au 20-04-2010 graphe 1 : réserves en miilions d'onces troy ( depuis 2006 ) graphe 2: différentiel mensuel, en millier d'onces troy marrant car on voit parfaitement et depuis 2006, quels qont les mois en or pour acheter de l'or en solde .. tout en notant que depuis 2009, les achats s'accélérent bigrement .. confirmant bien qu'un cap de prix important a été passé www.lemetropolecafe.com Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Ven 21 Mai 2010 - 23:57 | |
| et hop, on continue à accumuler tranquillement ==> + 6.22 T EN AVRIL www.lemetropolecafe.comThe Russian Central Bank has reported adding 200,000 ozs (6.22 tonnes) of gold to its FX Reserves in April, almost certainly from domestic production. In March when the ruble gold price was in a trough, 500,000 ozs were acquired. Russia's insatiable appetite for gold accumulation continues in April: Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Mer 25 Aoû 2010 - 21:30 | |
| +15.6 T ( 500.000 onces ) en juillet derrnier c'est marrant ça.. les achats de la russie épongent les ventes du fmi de ces derniers mois .. www.lemetropolecafe.com - Citation :
- Thebulliondesk.com reports the Russian Central bank has revealed that it added 15.6 tonnes (500,000 ozs) to its reserves in July, compared to 200,000ozs in June. So far this year it has acquired 87.5 tonnes – the total in 2009 was 134 tonnes.
The Russian gold news is big league stuff. If the IMF is dumping 15 tonnes per month to assist The Gold Cartel, Russia is taking it from them, leaving little supply for others to keep the price from advancing. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par marie Mar 12 Oct 2010 - 0:50 | |
| un point détaillé avec pas mal de graphiques inédits en provenance d'un des 1ers sites boursiers russes .. via www.lemetropolecafe.com *********************** Bank of Russia speeds up gold purchases Author: Stepan Vorobiev, www.goldenfront.ru – First Russian gold investment portal, contacts: db@goldenfront.ru The Central bank of Russia (CBR) sticks closely to its long-term gold buying strategy. Most recent data clearly illustrates this. CBR counted 734 metric tons of gold in its reserves (1) as of August this year. CBR added 9.6 tons of gold to its reserves in August and it became 41st month in a row of this epic Russian gold buying spree which began in April 2007 (see graph 1). In the first eight months of 2010 CBR’s gold stash grew by 96.7 tons or 15,2%, while the share of yellow metal in its reserves rose from 5.1% to 6.1%. CBR publicly declared the intention to increase the share of gold in its reserves to 10% in the fall of 2005(2). The Bank has begun to realize this plan in 2006 in a stealth manner thus avoiding excessive publicity. Since then, CBR has been constantly increasing both volume and growth rate of its gold purchases (see graphs 1 and 3), stepping up the activity significantly after the start of the US mortgage crisis in 2007 (see graph 1). In 2009 CBR’s gold holdings grew record 117.6 tons or 22.6%, reaching 637.2 tons by the end of the year. As a result Russia’s gold reserves outstripped those of the Netherlands in 2009 and rose one step in the gold ownership rankings of countries and international financial institutions – from 10th to 9th position. The US still rules the roost with its 8.133.5 tons. The share of gold in CBR’s overall reserves stood only at 5.1% at the beginning of 2010. Other countries with the largest FX reserves are in a similar position. According to World Gold Council China’s reserves contain a tiny 1.5% of gold, Japan’s – 2.6%, India’s – 6.9%, South Korea’s – 0.2% and those of Brazil– 0.5% as of the beginning of 2010. This stands in stark contrast with the US – 70.4%, Germany – 66.5%, France – 64.6%, and the UK – 16.3%. CBR’s gold policy follows the global trend. Central banks either diversify out of the dollar and buy gold instead thus increasing its share in their huge FX holdings (China, India) or restrict and stop their gold sales (developed world). As a result Central banks have become net buyers rather than net sellers of gold from the second quarter of 2009 and on – for the first time in nearly twenty years. It should be noted that 2010 has seen sharp increases in CBR’s gold buying despite the seemingly improving global economic situation. For example, in May its gold holdings grew by impressive 34.2 tons, which exceeded the volume of purchases for the entire first half of 2009. CBR more than doubled its gold purchases from the first half of 2009 to the same period 2010, from 30.6 to 71.8 tons. The sovereign debt crisis in the eurozone which peaked in May could partially explain this aggressive buying behavior. Notes:
- CBR’s gold reserves should not be confused with the Russian state gold reserves of which they are a part. The Russian state gold reserves also include the metal in the Gokhran of Russia (state precious metal storage facilities) – an adjunct of the Russian Ministry of Finance. In contrast with stats on CBR’s gold reserves information regarding the size of gold holdings in Gokhran is a state secret. Therefore, official global gold reserves statistics published by IMF and WGC do not include gold kept in Gokhran. This accounting peculiarity is used by several other countries.
- CBR’s announcement was made after the meeting of gold producers in the city of Magadan, Russian Far East in November, 2005 where the then Russian president Putin proposed to increase the share of gold in the Russian state reserves. Presidential economic advisor Andrey Bykov took part in Gold Rush 21 Conference in Dawson City, Yukon, Canada organized by GATA in August 2005 not long before Putin’s proposal. According to GATA’s head Bill Murphy, at the end of the event Bykov told him it had been the finest conference he ever attended.
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| | | Re: réserves d'or de la banque centrale de russie par g.sandro Mar 12 Oct 2010 - 8:22 | |
| Tain !!!! Italia vient de passer devant la France...!!!
C'est la première fois ... enfin, dans ce domaine en tout cas... parce qu'en foot et en pilotage moto... La Chine vient également de supplanter la confédération Helvétique... bon ok, ramené au ratio per capita, (par tête) ça reste anecdotique, mais enfin quand même... La Suisse... c'est tout un symbole... Silver is king, Go Gold !
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