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par marie Sam 20 Sep 2008 - 17:32 | |
| la saga des relations de Goldman Sachs avec le gouvernement des USA, mais aussi avec les institutions européennes au plus haut niveau ici, on en parle depuis très longtemps ... puisque GS est aussi, l'un des membres le plus éminent du cartel de l'or, qui manipule le prix de l'or à la baisse.. cet article du w post a le mérite de faire le point complet sur les relations quasi incestueuses de GS avec le gouvernement us .. quelquesoit le parti au pouvoir... voir le § sur Clinton et Rubinhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/18/AR2008091803843.htmlGoldman Alumni Now Call the Shots In Washington By Michael Abramowitz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, September 19, 2008; A11
When newly appointed White House chief of staff Joshua B. Bolten tried to shake up the Bush administration in the spring of 2006, he spent weeks wooing Goldman Sachs chief executive Henry M. Paulson Jr. to be Treasury secretary. Bolten had personal reasons for thinking Paulson might be a good pick -- Bolten himself had worked for the influential investment bank in Europe in the 1990s -- and Paulson eventually gave in to his persistent lobbying.
"I had always trusted him," Paulson once said of Bolten in an interview. "I felt a bond and a sense of trust."
Paulson and Bolten are just two of the onetime Goldman figures who find themselves managing perhaps the biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression. After Paulson took over at Treasury in May 2006, he turned to Goldman colleague Robert K. Steel to help him oversee financial markets. Steel left recently to run Wachovia, but several other Goldman alumni remain to help Paulson deal with the ongoing market turmoil.
Such heavy reliance on the most prestigious Wall Street investment firm has become something of a bipartisan Washington tradition in recent years; Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin was also a co- chairman of Goldman Sachs, as was Bush economic adviser Stephen Friedman. But if the Wall Street meltdown continues, the tradition may come under scrutiny, especially if Goldman eventually needs the kind of government assistance granted Bear Stearns or American International Group.
From the right, prominent voices question Paulson's use of taxpayer dollars to help rescue private firms, while liberal and labor groups attack the ideological orientation of the Treasury secretary and other officials hailing from Goldman.
"Goldman culture has prided itself on creating sort of financial statesmen who would come to Washington as well as operate in the highest realm of finance," said Robert Borosage, president of the Institute for America's Future, a liberal think tank. "What's clear is that these people in both parties -- whether it's Rubin or Paulson -- have been leading promulgators of the deregulation that has gotten us in this hole."
Jeffrey E. Garten, who worked on international economic matters in several administrations, took a different view. "If we are going to have a highly skilled revolving door, I don't think you can do better than look at the top ranks of Goldman Sachs and bring them into government," he said.
"They are brutally effective. They waste absolutely no time. They are not lone rangers. They surround themselves with a lot of people and seek as much advice as they can," said Garten, who now teaches international trade and finance at Yale University. "They are masters at getting at the heart of a problem in lightning speed."
Asked why presidents turn to Goldman, White House spokesman Tony Fratto said it was more a question for Goldman than for the administration. "It's part of the culture up there at Goldman that they appreciate public service," he said.
Fratto said Bolten, who worked on legal and government affairs at Goldman in the 1990s, has no reason to recuse himself from matters concerning the firm because he worked there years ago and has no continuing financial interest. Paulson has recused himself from issues directly affecting Goldman, though he can seek a waiver if the White House counsel and Office of Government Ethics deem it appropriate, Fratto said.
The résumés of Bolten and Paulson illustrate the revolving door between Washington and Goldman Sachs. Both went to Goldman after working in government -- Bolten as counsel to the U.S. trade representative during the George H.W. Bush administration and Paulson at the White House and Pentagon in the Nixon administration -- before returning to federal service at a very senior level.
Other Bush administration officials have followed similar paths. After he resigned as deputy secretary of state in 2006, Robert B. Zoellick worked briefly at Goldman Sachs before being named by Bush as president of the World Bank. Dina Habib Powell, former White House personnel chief and assistant secretary of state, now oversees Goldman's charitable and philanthropic activities.
Democrats have turned to Goldman alumni including Rubin and Gary Gensler, a Goldman partner who served in top positions in the Clinton Treasury Department. Another former chief executive, Jon S. Corzine, went on to serve in the Senate and is now the Democratic governor of New Jersey.
Political contributions suggest a Democratic tilt at Goldman; of the $4.3 million so far contributed to campaigns this year by employees or by the firm's political action committee, roughly three-quarters has gone to Democrats, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
The contributions suggest how attuned the firm is to Washington, where actions on regulation and other policies can affect the bottom line. Said one former Treasury official: "They see long-term strategic advantage in being involved in the intersection of public policy and finance, not just here but also Brussels and other capitals."-END-   Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Sam 27 Sep 2008 - 3:43 | |
| Paulson Taps Ex-Goldman Colleague Forst as Rescue Plan Adviser
Sept. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson hired former Goldman Sachs Group Inc. colleague Edward C. Forst to advise him on the government's $700 billion rescue plan, a Treasury spokeswoman said.
``He is here to provide the secretary and the domestic finance team with advice on financial market issues as they work through the legislative process,' department spokeswoman Brookly McLaughlin said today.
Forst, 47, left Goldman Sachs in June to become executive vice president at Harvard University. Paulson was Goldman's chairman and chief executive officer until taking up his Treasury post in July 2006.
Forst started work this week at Treasury and will work for several weeks as a ``contract employee' for $5,000 before returning to Harvard, McLaughlin said. He worked at New York- based Goldman for 14 years, most recently as global head of investment management, before joining Harvard to help supervise the university's $34.9 billion endowment.
In his more than two years at the Treasury, Paulson has recruited other executives from Goldman, including naming Kendrick Wilson as an adviser last month. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | et hop, c'est l'ex vice président de GS
par marie Mar 7 Oct 2008 - 3:34 | |
| Neel Kashkari que Paulson nomme à la tête du bureau de stabilité financiére ( traduction perso pour Office of Financial Stability), quel joli nom...
était en effet le vice président de GS, avant de rejoindre le trésor ...
on fait tout.. "entre nous" c'est bien ... plus maffieux !
comme il est annoncé que ce brave homme quittera ( tout comme PAULSON) ses fonctions à la fin du mandat de bush ... je me demande bien quelle firme va les accueillir.. ts ls 2 .. et par qui Gs va les remplacer ..
source bloomberg
Paulson to Name Kashkari to Oversee Bailout, WSJ Says
Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is expected to name Neel Kashkari to oversee the U.S. government's $700 billion financial stabilization program, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
As assistant secretary for international economics and development at the Treasury, Kashkari is a senior adviser to Paulson and counsels him on key policy matters, according to the department's Web site. The decision for Kashkari, 35, to run the new department known as the Office of Financial Stability, may be announced as early as today, the newspaper said.
U.S. President George W. Bush signed a $700 billion financial-market rescue plan into law last week, calling it a ``decisive action to ease the credit crunch that is now threatening our economy.'
Kashkari was one of the Treasury officials who negotiated the proposal to buy bad mortgage investments from financial companies with Congress after last year envisaging the possibility of such a plan with Phillip Swagel, the assistant secretary for economic policy, the paper said.
The stabilization bill authorizes the government to buy troubled assets from financial institutions reeling from record home foreclosures. The Treasury Department still needs to decide on the hiring of asset managers, securities that need to be bought and ways to purchase them, the Wall Street Journal said.
Kashkari's position as interim head of the Office of Financial Stability is expected to end when Bush leaves office, the paper said. He was a vice president at Goldman Sachs & Co. before joining the Treasury, and his role there included advising public and private companies on mergers, acquisitions and financial transactions…
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pour mémo un texte en français de la tribune, beaucoup moins explicite que le bloomberg
Première étape du plan de sauvetage des banques
Par La Tribune
lun 06 oct, 23h16
Le Trésor américain a lancé lundi la première étape du plan Paulson en émettant trois appels d'offres de services financiers devant permettre de trouver des gestionnaires d'actifs privés pour le mettre en oeuvre. Un ancien de Goldman Sachs dirigera la programme de rachat.
Le plan Paulson est sur les rails. Adopté vendredi par la Chambre des représentants et promulgué dans la foulée par George Bush, ce plan de sauvetage des banques, qui prévoit notamment le rachat des actifs "toxiques" pour un montant pouvant atteindre 700 milliards de dollars, se met en place.Le Trésor américain (ministère des Finances) a lancé ce lundi "trois appels d'offres s'adressant aux agents financiers susceptibles de fournir les services nécessaires à la mise en place effective du programme d'aide aux actifs à problèmes autorisé par la loi de stabilisation économique d'urgence".Un appel d'offres concerne à la gestion d'actifs liés à des prêts immobiliers, un autre la gestion de prêts immobiliers susceptibles d'être rachetés aux banques, et le troisième divers services d'infrastructures et de comptabilité en rapport avec le portefeuille d'actifs à problèmes que le Trésor américain se propose de racheter pour le compte de l'Etat fédéral.Par ailleurs, Neel Kashkari a été nommé ce lundi à la tête du programme de rachat des actifs douteux des banques par Henry Paulson, le secrétaire au Trésor (ministre des Finances). Actuellement secrétaire adjoint au Trésor pour les questions d'économie internationale et de développement, cet ancien de Goldman Sachs mettra en œuvre la première tranche du plan, en attendant l’arrivée de la future administration. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Dim 26 Oct 2008 - 20:03 | |
| le 1er job de Paulson .... chez Nixon... et comme assistant de John Erlichman, mouillé dans le sandale du Watergate !! www.lemetropolecafe.com Jesse on Comrade Paulson: I didn't know he was a member of the Nixon White House as his first 'real job.' In 1970, fresh from the Masters program of the Harvard Business School, Paulson entered the Nixon administration, working first as staff assistant to the assistant secretary of defense. In 1972-73, Paulson worked as office assistant to John Erlichman, assistant to the president for domestic affairs. Erlichman was one of the key figures involved in organizing President Richard Nixon’s notorious "plumbers" unit that carried out illegal covert operations against the president’s political opponents, including espionage, blackmail, and revenge. Ehlichman resigned in 1973, and in 1975 he was convicted of obstruction of justice, perjury, and conspiracy, and was imprisoned for 18 months. Utilizing his connections, Paulson went to work for Goldman Sachs in 1974. In a 2007 feature, the British newspaper the Guardian wrote, "Not only was he well connected enough to get the job [in the Nixon White House], but well connected enough to resign in the thick of the Watergate scandal without ever getting caught up in the fallout. He went straight to Goldman back home in Illinois." *** Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Jeu 4 Déc 2008 - 0:09 | |
| et ça continue... ds l'autre sens, cette fois ..
Goldman taps former head of NY Fed for chairman: report
Wednesday December 3, 12:59 am ET
(Reuters) - Goldman Sachs Group Inc is looking to name Gerald Corrigan, a former head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, as chairman of its newly created bank holding company, Financial Times said. Goldman and rival Morgan Stanley converted themselves to bank holding companies after investment bank Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy in mid-September.
Corrigan's appointment, expected to be announced soon, comes as speculation mounts over Goldman's strategic direction in its new incarnation -- including whether it will buy another bank to build its deposits more quickly, the paper said.
During his tenure with the New York Fed, Corrigan was an activist figure who had no trouble telling heads of big banks to come up with swift action plans to improve balance sheets in the 1990 downturn, the paper said.
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Mer 28 Jan 2009 - 0:11 | |
| et ça continue... le remplaçant de Timothy Geithner à la présidence de la FED de NY est William Dudley, un ex chef économiste de GS, et managing diecteur Dave from Denver encore… The Goldman Sachs fraternity party in our Government continues. William Dudley, chosen to replace Tim Geithner, the tax dodger, at the NY Fed, is a former Goldman Sachs chief economist and partner/managing director. From 1999-2005, during a time when the budget and spending, as well as the borrowing, of the U.S. Government grew at record pace, was a member of the Technical Consultants Group to the Congressional Budget Office. So we can see that his technical forecasting and consulting skills are less than solid. Maybe he learned that skill from his undergrad alma mater, New College in Sarasota, Florida, which sounds like a correspondent college you enroll in from the back of a matchbook cover. http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/dudley.html www.lemetropolecafe.com Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Mar 24 Mar 2009 - 21:57 | |
| et devinez d'où sort le nouveau patron de la FED de NY ? cv de william Dudley http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/dudley.htmlDudley |
 William C. Dudley became the 10th president and chief executive officer of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on January 27, 2009. In that capacity, he serves as the vice chairman and a permanent member of the Federal Open Market Committee, the group responsible for formulating the nation’s monetary policy.
Mr. Dudley had been executive vice president of the Markets Group at the New York Fed, where he also managed the System Open Market Account for the Federal Open Market Committee. The Markets Group oversees domestic open market and foreign exchange trading operations and the provisions of account services to foreign central banks.
Prior to joining the Bank in 2007, Mr. Dudley was a partner and managing director at Goldman, Sachs & Company and was the firm’s chief U.S. economist for a decade. Earlier in his career at Goldman Sachs, he had a variety of roles including a period when he was responsible for the firm’s foreign exchange forecasts. Prior to joining Goldman Sachs in 1986, he was a vice president at the former Morgan Guaranty Trust Company. Mr. Dudley was an economist at the Federal Reserve Board from 1981 to 1983.
He was a member of the Technical Consultants Group to the Congressional Budget Office from 1999 to 2005.
Mr. Dudley received his doctorate in economics from the University of California, Berkeley in 1982 and a Bachelor of Arts degree from New College, Sarasota, Florida in 1974.
Mr. Dudley and his wife, Ann E. Darby, reside in New Jersey.
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et ça n'est pas tout ..
le "chairman" de la FED de NY est également un homme de GS
http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/orgchart/board/friedman.html
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Stephen Friedman is retired chairman of The Goldman Sachs Group and currently serves as chairman of Stone Point Capital, LLC.
He joined Goldman, Sachs & Co. in 1966 and became a partner in 1973. He was vice chairman and co-chief operating officer from 1987 to November 1990, and co-chairman or chairman from 1990 to 1994.
Mr. Friedman is chairman of the President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board and of the Intelligence Oversight Board. From December 2002 to December 2004, he served as assistant to President George W. Bush for Economic Policy and director of the National Economic Council.
Mr. Friedman received his B.A. from Cornell University and law degree from Columbia University Law School. He is currently a board member of The Goldman Sachs Group, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center, The Aspen Institute and the Council on Foreign Relations.
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| | | Re: Goldman Sachs /collusion et conflits d'intérêt avec le gouvernement Usa et la gouvernance mondiale
par marie Ven 8 Mai 2009 - 16:26 | |
| tiens donc .... démission du chairman de la fed de NY..  NEW YORK, 8 mai (Reuters) - Stephen Friedman, président de la Banque de Réserve fédérale de New York, a démissionné jeudi après les interrogations suscitées par l'achat d'actions Goldman Sachs (GS.N: Cotation), son précédent employeur. Friedman, ancien président de Goldman Sachs, siège au conseil de la Fed de New York depuis janvier 2008. Il a dit vouloir prévenir d'éventuelles critiques en démissionnant. Friedman a acquis des actions Goldman en décembre 2008 et en janvier de cette année, comme l'a révélé le Wall Street Journal lundi. Avec ces derniers achats, Friedman détient 98.600 actions Goldman. L'action Goldman a fini jeudi à $133,73. Sur les deux achats Friedman a gagné plus de 3 millions de dollars. Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook |
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| | | Obama nominates former Goldman Sachs exec as ambassador to Germany
par g.sandro Mar 14 Juil 2009 - 16:06 | |
| un ex GS, nommé ambassadeur pour l'allemagne Obama nominates former Goldman Sachs exec as ambassador to Germany
US President Barack Obama plans to nominate Philip Murphy, a former finance
chairman for the Democratic National Committee, to be ambassador to Germany.
Murphy served as the head of Goldman Sachs's Frankfurt office, overseeing the
financial firm's operations in Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and the
then-emerging nations of East Central Europe from 1993-97. He held a number of
executive positions at Goldman Sachs and was a senior director from 2003 until
his retirement in 2006.
His nomination continues a pattern of naming high-profile fundraisers and
contributors to the Democrats to choice ambassadorial posts, a long-standing
political tradition in the United States for the party in power.
It was reported in Germany's Der Spiegel magazine earlier this month that the
German president's office had given an official nod of approval to Murphy's
nomination, which had first been mooted in May. It is very rare for an
ambassadorial nomination to be rejected by the host nation.Murphy to end six-month long absenceThe US has been without an ambassador to Germany for the first six months of
the Obama presidency, after William R. Timken relinquished the post at the end
of President George W. Bush's administration. The White House has attributed the delay to stringent new review procedures
in the filling of top posts in the Obama administration. An embarrassing tax
scandal at the turn of the year led the new government to enforce even stricter
checks, slowing the process down further.Murphy must still wait until the US Senate confirms his appointment before
officially taking up his new job in Berlin.nda/AP
Editor: Nathan Witkop
Deutsche Welle Silver is king, Go Gold !
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| | | Et en plus Blankfein se fout de nous!
par GdB Lun 12 Oct 2009 - 3:04 | |
| A lire les déclarations du PDG de Goldman Sachs, qui se permet avec un cynisme à la limite du supportable (ou de l'insupportable!) de justifier les bonus et salaires élevés chez GS d'une manière très très très fine!  - Citation :
Goldman Sachs n'entend pas renoncer à verser des bonus à ses cadres :
Le PDG de Goldman Sachs, Lloyd Blankfein, le 11 février 2009 à Washington
AFP/Getty Images/Archives Chip Somodevilla
Le PDG de la banque d'affaires américaine Goldman Sachs Lloyd Blankfein n'entend pas renoncer à récompenser ses meilleurs éléments avec de généreux bonus, a-t-il prévenu, arguant de son "obligation" à garder ses employés "contents".
"Au coeur du succès de la performance, des succès et de la longévité de Goldman pendant (la crise financière), il y a, à part la chance, le fait que nous nous sommes mis en position d'avoir plus de chance grâce à nos employés", a souligné M. Blankfein dans un entretien publié samedi par le Wall Street Journal.
"J'ai l'obligation de garder l'entreprise et cette marque intacte", a-t-il enchaîné.
M. Blankfein, qui s'est exprimé à plusieurs reprises sur la moralisation des rémunérations des cadres et acteurs de marché, plaidant notamment pour qu'elle soit conçue sur le long terme et largement versée en actions, a également avancé un argument inédit: les bonus accumulés dans la banques permettent à ses employés d'accumuler rapidement de la richesse, et par voie de conséquence de se retirer tôt des affaires pour faire carrière dans le service public.
"Je parie que, quand les choses se seront calmées, on trouvera de nouveau que c'est positif que les gens mettent de côté leur recherche de richesse personnelle pour aller se mettre au service du gouvernement</FONT>", a dit M. Blankfein[/size].
Goldman Sachs, "la banque que tout le monde aime détester" comme la décrit le Wall Street Journal, est en effet un réservoir de dirigeants du Trésor et autres responsables politiques. Sont notamment issus de ses rangs l'ancien secrétaire au Trésor Henry Paulson et l'actuel gouverneur du New Jersey (est) Jon Corzine.
Le mois dernier, M. Blankfein avait estimé que, "par bien des aspects, une grande part (des controverses sur les primes versées dans les banques) est compréhensible et justifiée". "Il y a peu de justification pour le versement de rémunérations discrétionnaires (ndlr: primes) démesurées quand une institution financière a perdu de l'argent dans l'année", avait-il dit.
Chez Goldman Sachs, les frais de rémunération ont représenté 49% du chiffre d'affaires durant le premier semestre, atteignant 6,65 milliards au deuxième trimestre, en hausse de 47% par rapport à la période équivalente de 2008, alors que le bénéfice net voyait sa progression limitée à 33%.
Je préfère imaginer que c'est de l'autodérision parce que sinon c'est à GERBER!!!!</FONT>
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par marie Lun 12 Oct 2009 - 3:15 | |
| olala, c'est TROP fort ça .. quand on connait les connections de GS avec le trésor us .. et tout les posts clefs de l'establishment us ..ou mondial !! voir TOUT les posts de la file trop fort ...  c'est vraiment DEMENT, ce qu'ils tentent de nous faire gober, ces fils de p.....inocchio . !! merci GDB pour cet extraordinaire trouvaille !   Marie Pas de copier-coller: merci de faire un lien vers ce post. Suivez Hardinvestor sur Twitter et sur Facebook
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