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**marie** Skipper Inscription : 05/02/2005 Messages : 20139

bizzare dans un soi disant contexte de pétage de bulle des matières premières !! plus haut 5 ans sur les métaux de base 210770

source midas

plus haut 5 ans sur les métaux de base Midas1011A

Let me get to a surprising positive on a market issue which is mostly ignored. My focus today is on what the base metals are doing. Yesterday the GFMS base metals index made an all-time HIGH. Today it followed through to the upside on that high with ALL the base metals closing higher on the day…
How do you have a bubble BURST in base metals with the index making all-time highs?

I am no expert in this area, however, by way of what I have heard and through feedback from informed Café sources, it has been my long held view that many pundits in this arena have been schnuckered … in that they believed the run up in the base metals was mostly due to excessive speculation by the hedge funds. My contention is that much of that buying was the Chinese and others, going through intermediaries, to make it look as if it were hedge fund buying. Much of what was thought to be spec buying by weak hands has, in actually, been strong hand buying, or supply that is not coming back on the market in the near term.

An example of this would be Chinese buying of gold through the STALKER buying group, noted here for years in this column. In addition, over the past years, MIDAS has reported the Chinese scouring the countryside of Africa and South America to secure supply via long term base metals contracts.

What the base metals did today in London:

Copper up .92%

Nickel up 2.76%

Aluminum up 2.01%

Zinc up 2.82%

Lead up 1.13%

Chart review of the base metals:

http://www.kitcometals.com/

The only commodity bubble burst has been gold, silver and oil. But, we know the gold move down has been an orchestrated one, a fraud. Oil? My guess it is the Saudis and US government are driving the price down for the elections.

Marie
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**g.sandro** Captain Inscription : 04/02/2005 Messages : 14458

Silver is king, Go Gold !

G.Sandro
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**marie** Skipper Inscription : 05/02/2005 Messages : 20139

le GROS malaise de mai dernier , n'est donc pas le pétage d'une bulle spéculative , , bulle dont les Hedge Funds seraient à l'origine ( version caballas média servie à l'époque ) plus haut 5 ans sur les métaux de base 210770

mieux encore; et pour le cuivre tant suspecté de folie spéculative des HF , ces plus hauts de 5 ans sont le fait des COMMERCIAUX et non des Large Spec qui eux sont de plus en plus shorts !!

si c'est pas de la pure désinformation ça !!!

alors que pendt ce temps la, les commerciaux futures or et argent métal ,maintiennent envers et contre tout et ,surtout quelque soit le trend , une NET short position depuis de tres nombreuses années (depuis 20 ans pour l'argent métal et 5 ans pour l'or !! )... ce sont les 2 seuls marchés où vous pourrez observer ce phénoméne ...bizarre isn'it?

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source midas via prudentbear et bloomberg

Meanwhile, here is a PrudentBear report card this weekend on the commodities bear market:

Commodities bear market? Wheat surged 13%, posting its biggest weekly gain in 10 years. Corn gained 16%, its strongest week since 1988. Orange juice rose almost 16%. Nickel this week traded to a 19-year high, tin a 17-year high and lead a record high. Gold gained 2.8% to $590.4 and Silver 4.5% to $11.68. Copper added 0.7%, increasing y-t-d gains to 77%. November crude declined $1.19 to end the week at $58.57. November Unleaded Gasoline fell 2.4%, and November Natural Gas sank 11.9%. For the week, the CRB index rallied 1.1% (down 8.6% y-t-d), and The Goldman Sachs Commodities Index (GSCI) gained 2.8% (up 0.7% y-t-d).

http://www.prudentbear.com/creditbubblebulletin.asp

That commentary was before today which saw the base metals SOAR:

*Aluminum was up 2.16%.

*Zinc was up 5.51%.

*Lead was up 1.8%.

*AND COPPER was up 4.36%, some 15 cents!

What a day. Commodity bubble burst??? Not only that, this Bloomberg review of copper today suggests not only that the hedge funds are not long, they are getting shorter, something initially presented to Café members by MIDAS a while ago:

Copper for delivery in three months gained $270, or 3.6 percent, to $7,730 a ton on the LME. The contract for December delivery advanced 10.5 cents, or 3.1 percent, to $3.518 a pound on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Hedge-fund managers and other large speculators increased their net-short position in Comex copper futures by 8 percent to 13,287 contracts in the week ended Oct. 10 from a week earlier, according to U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission data. A short position is a bet on price decline.

Miners, producers and other commercial users were net-long 15,011 contracts, an increase of 3,073 contracts, or 26 percent, from the previous week, the Washington-based commission said in its Commitments of Traders report Oct. 13. The LME doesn't report similar data…

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601012&sid=aHHKPjx5_B8A&refer=commodities

Marie
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**marie** Skipper Inscription : 05/02/2005 Messages : 20139

un excellent topo de Rob Kirby

qui prend en faute, une fois de + le pathétique, mais surtout pas" trés clair", Denis Gartmann que nous connaissons bien ici pour ses démélés avec Bill Murphy ..et surtout ses ventes d'or ( et non achats ), TOUJOURS faite la veille d'une attaque du cartel

pour les couvertures de shorts, il semble que le cartel fasse cavalier seul .. plus haut 5 ans sur les métaux de base 210770

http://www.financialsense.com/Market/kirby/2006/1120.html

Marie
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